Comments on: Obama, Clinton on Prevention and Public Health Policy http://biologics.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obama-clinton-on-prevention-and-public-health-policy/ Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:02:42 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Frank D. http://biologics.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obama-clinton-on-prevention-and-public-health-policy/#comment-166 Frank D. Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:24:36 +0000 http://biologics.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-166 Hillary's healthcare plan will dramatically improve access to healthcare, while Obama's plan shifts a lot of costs to consumers, so people still wont be able to afford them. Statistics of number of 'insured' might go up, but the actual protection against huge uncovered costs wont improve greatly. Plus, even if companies can't turn people away, what good are plans for people with pre-existing conditions 'who wont be turned away'. If the plans cost thousands of dollars a month, which they will need to, because of adverse selection, they will remain unreachable. Also, Obama wont stop rescission, he wont stop cost shifting, in fact, cost shifting is an integral part of his plan, its at the essence of 'choice' - which is a cruel gamble on an uncertain future. (Nobody *expects* to get sick.) Hillary caps people's expenditures at 5-10% of their income. Nowadays some people are spending 50% of their income paying for health insurance. And its getting worse. Obama isn't addressing the cost at all and he isn't getting anything in return from the insurance companies for giving them all those new customers. Hillary is using the healthy ones to lower costs for everyone, protecting everyone from risk, its the ONLY way. Elizabeth Edwards thinks Hillary's healthcare plan is MUCH better than those of the other two candidates. You can watch/hear/read her talk about it at length here: (scroll down to 'keynote') http://www.kaisernetwork.org/health_cast/hcast_index.cfm?display=detail&hc=2532 Hillary’s healthcare plan will dramatically improve access to healthcare, while Obama’s plan shifts a lot of costs to consumers, so people still wont be able to afford them. Statistics of number of ‘insured’ might go up, but the actual protection against huge uncovered costs wont improve greatly. Plus, even if companies can’t turn people away, what good are plans for people with pre-existing conditions ‘who wont be turned away’. If the plans cost thousands of dollars a month, which they will need to, because of adverse selection, they will remain unreachable. Also, Obama wont stop rescission, he wont stop cost shifting, in fact, cost shifting is an integral part of his plan, its at the essence of ‘choice’ – which is a cruel gamble on an uncertain future. (Nobody *expects* to get sick.) Hillary caps people’s expenditures at 5-10% of their income. Nowadays some people are spending 50% of their income paying for health insurance. And its getting worse. Obama isn’t addressing the cost at all and he isn’t getting anything in return from the insurance companies for giving them all those new customers. Hillary is using the healthy ones to lower costs for everyone, protecting everyone from risk, its the ONLY way.

Elizabeth Edwards thinks Hillary’s healthcare plan is MUCH better than those of the other two candidates. You can watch/hear/read her talk about it at length here: (scroll down to ‘keynote’)

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/health_cast/hcast_index.cfm?display=detail&hc=2532

]]> By: Cory Whitney http://biologics.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obama-clinton-on-prevention-and-public-health-policy/#comment-128 Cory Whitney Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:44:22 +0000 http://biologics.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-128 It is hard to watch this debate taking place, Clinton is slamming Obama repeatedly and repeatedly it turns out that she is wrong. Her health care plan is not better, or claimed 'by all the experts' to be better than his. It is hard to watch this debate taking place, Clinton is slamming Obama repeatedly and repeatedly it turns out that she is wrong. Her health care plan is not better, or claimed ‘by all the experts’ to be better than his.

]]> By: suelove http://biologics.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obama-clinton-on-prevention-and-public-health-policy/#comment-123 suelove Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:05:33 +0000 http://biologics.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-123 Obama's plan seems more focused on prevention , encouraging healthy lifestyles, and strengthening public health. I did not see any mention of the role of the state and local health department in Clinton's plan. Obama’s plan seems more focused on prevention , encouraging healthy lifestyles, and strengthening public health. I did not see any mention of the role of the state and local health department in Clinton’s plan.

]]> By: mikelove http://biologics.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obama-clinton-on-prevention-and-public-health-policy/#comment-122 mikelove Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:50:41 +0000 http://biologics.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-122 Clinton seems to have the same rhetoric about prevention and shared responsibility of public health. Would you say it's more central to one or the other? Clinton seems to have the same rhetoric about prevention and shared responsibility of public health. Would you say it’s more central to one or the other?

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